In this episode, we kick it off outside and talk about the difference between using TV and nature to destress. Plus, how researchers have found that even if you don’t think you like nature, you can still get the benefits from it. Then we head inside and talk Taskmaster, 99 To Beat, and just playing more games in general. And then Andrea gives us Pangram rundown (the AI detection platform) and how/why it’s changing the publishing industry. She also gives great advice on using AI as a creative (she doesn’t hold back.)
About this week’s guest: Andrea is a journalist and the New York Times bestselling author of five novels, includingWe Were Never Here, a Reese’s Book Club pick. Her forthcoming speculative thriller, Delete Your Account, is scheduled for publication in May 2027. She was also a lead plaintiff in the landmark class-action lawsuit Bartz v. Anthropic, which was the first major win for creatives against an AI company as well as the largest copyright recovery in history.
Find Andrea
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Show notes!
This week’s sponsor: May Lindstrom
Nature and The Mind by Marc Berman
The Comfort Crisis by Michael Easter
Taskmaster (all seasons for free!)
15 Urgent Questions About Pangram
Pangram Objection Letter Generator
I lost my $2m book deal because people mistook my African dialect for AI via The Independent
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